5/16/2023 0 Comments Awaken with jp![]() We just had a twenty-fifth anniversary of transpersonal psychology and I got a special award for the contributions of the field together with Ken Wilber. Mostly people in transpersonal psychology, humanistic psychology. SG: I don’t think it has penetrated sufficiently to the kind of mainstream academic circles, universities, research institutions, and so on. How is your work being met by other experts in the field? And then there is a significant agreement on what people have experienced in these realms, although they are not consensus reality in the ordinary sense.īB: You have mapped nonordinary states in The Adventures of Self Discovery and The Holotropic Mind, perhaps, better than anybody else in the therapeutic movement. But of course, you have to visit those different realms and talk about them with people who have had similar kinds of experiences. But what’s very interesting is that when you study nonordinary states you’ll find out that there’s also consensus. Obviously, we all don’t see it exactly the same way, so there would be variations, but there’s sufficient overlap in individual perceptions of the world that we can talk about some kind of joined reality. SG: Well, consensus reality is basically the way we agree the world is. We met, we presented at conferences jointly, but those are mostly independent observations.īB: In the Holotropic Mind you also talk about “consensus reality,” versus objective reality. Was he an influence on your work in any way? Lang wrote that nonordinary states were not necessarily wrong or worse states of reality, but simply different. And then the unconscious part brought in individual unconscious.īB: You make an interesting statement in The Holotropic Mind that there’s a tendency among traditional therapists to see nonordinary states as pathological. The traditional framework is basically limited to biological aspects, in relation to the psychic of the brain and then in terms of computer language, what we would call software, the programs that are there, basically limited to post-natal biography, to what happened to us in infancy, childhood, and later life. In this context I observed that people, in their experiences, were going off very, very far beyond the experiential framework that is defined by psychoanalysis and by mainstream psychology and psychiatry. Some of these were government sponsored clinical projects exploring therapeutic potential of psychedelic substances, and also what we can learn about the psyche. STANISLAV GROF: I have done a lot of work in the area of nonordinary consciousness, basically clinical research of psychedelics, both in the United States and then before, in Prague. ![]() Bart BrodskyīART BRODSKY: Please describe your contribution as one of the originators of transpersonal psychology. Let us know if you enjoy this interview and want to read more like it. Grof’s reputation has only grown in the interim. I think you’ll find the topic as fresh as ever, and Dr. ![]() The following is an excerpt from an unpublished conversation I had with Dr. For details about each of these venues please see OPEN EXCHANGE’s Conferences category. Grof will be speaking at the San Francisco New Living Expo and also at East West Bookstore in Mountain View.
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